I've noticed similarities to history X or author Y, were you influenced by that?
I spent a little time in Wales and loved it. I also was a huge fan of the books Taliesin and Merlin by Stephen Lawhead when I was growing up--and he uses Welsh properly in his books. I went to Caernarfon, toured the castle, and spent an evening being regaled with stories by an old, real-life spy. I thought the word was so cool that I had to use it someday. So I tweaked it a little to make it different and easier to pronounce correctly--substituting the f with a v. Dang, I swear I never saw that town's name written in English. So this is how a clever nod to something cool in real life goes from clever nod to straight ripoff. Oh well, I made worse mistakes.
Actually, I made a similar mistake with Sa'kage'. I meant Kage to evoke something dark or shadowy, because to me, it felt dark and shadowy ("Sa" simply being a contraction of an Old Jaeran term meaning "Lord.") Yeah, cool, except that--as someone pointed out--Kage actually does mean shadow in Japanese. Since most of the little Japanese I know has to do with sushi ("More gari?" "Domo arigato!"), this was just a mistake. Maybe not one that will ruin anything for the vast majority of people, but if I'd become aware of it, I probably would have changed it a little. I generally want connotation, not translation. But I'm a writer, not a philosopher, so expect some inconsistencies.
The other word is indeed Waeddryn, and I'm not talking about that one. :)
I was playing off the archaic meanings of Azoth referred to by that Wikipedia article, but not the occult ones. I don't think Azoth is God or something, although it is kind of cool how they came up with that. Funny thing is, I even did Google Azoth at some point, but I don't think that Wikipedia article existed at the time.
As for similarities to other authors or series here is my well thought out response to that question….CONTIANS SPOILERS!So, first to take your questions at face value: are there similarities? Sure. Jordan was a favorite of mine. I didn’t love everything he did, and I haven’t read any of his books for eight (?) years, but those first books wowed me as much as Tolkien's books did. Jordan rocks.
For my Sethi islanders, I had people who were sailors in a very hot climate--so I looked to Polynesians, whose women never wore tops. Don’t really remember much else about Jordan’s Sea Folk except blue fingernails (?), Windseekers and a regimented society, but whatever. The Sethi islanders, so yes, they're skilled sailors.
Lae’knaught and the Children of the Light. Think of the Knights Templar, about whom (contrary to Dan Brown) very little is known except that they were an ideologically-founded society of knights who were rich, kicked butt on the battlefield, and drew recruits from all over Christendom. That scared the hell out of regular kings, because your own people might decide their loyalty was first to this group, rather than to you. But because Knights Templar held no land, they couldn't be opposed in traditional ways. They were on your own side…sort of. I decided to put a rationalist spin on these guys because I've seen the "religious zealot" stereotype way too many times in fantasy. Didn't remember that the Children used the Sun symbol, though. I used that for the "pure light of reason, beating back the darkness of ignorance." So it worked within their rationalist beliefs. If I had actually studied Jordan or remembered that he used that, I probably would have changed it. (By the way, Jordan "borrowed" that title "Children of the Light" from 1 Thessalonians 5 in the New Testament. Just looked it up. Knew it was from somewhere.)
Curoch/Callandor--come on, you can’t think of ONE other magic sword that’s intended for a once and future king? Here’s a hint: it starts with Ex- and ends with -calibur. Jordan even has his buried in a stone or crystal or something no one else but the appointed guy can touch. The Sword in the Stone? Did anyone accuse him of ripping off the Disney cartoon?
Sorry, that came out kind of snarky. I’m not going to go through them all your examples because of space. Some are really pretty different, or conversely quite common to the genre. The one that IS quite similar is that the women have a unified school and the men don’t. I’d do that differently if I had it to do again. It’s not essential to my world and it IS too similar. My bad. (That's part of the reason that I immediately threatened that pillar of their beliefs--the exclusion of men--in book 3 once we actually spent some time there.) But physically, the Chantry is a floating island that's a statue of a woman holding a sword in one hand and scales in the other, the scales behind her back holding a heart on one side and a feather on the other. If you really want to try to draw direct influences, I guess you could play the game like this: woman holding sword and scales--Justice from Greek mythology (except not blind), heart and feather on scales--Egyptian mythology (except not half animal), floating island--um, the Coeur d'Alene golf course floating green (except not golf). And what other color could it be but white? A big purple statue? That just doesn't make sense.
I was reticent to answer this question not because I’m embarrassed about my influences or how my world came together, but because when you dissect literature, it can die. If you say, “Oh, George R. R. Martin’s Song of Ice and Fire is just a retelling of the War of the Roses,” you make it seem smaller. Or you say, “Robert Jordan’s Children of the Light are just an amalgam of the Knights Templar and the Spanish Inquisition.” Oh, well that makes them seem less creepy. “Oh, Trollocs? Troll-orcs. Rip-off from Tolkien.” See what I mean?
I think that’s sad and unfair, and stems from a mistaken notion of what fantasy writers (or maybe all writers) do. Everyone used to talk about whether writer X or Y was just another rip-off of Tolkien. But that was because Tolkien was as far back as they’d read. But Tolkien’s Ring of Power, the One Ring that gave invisibility, first showed up in Plato, who used the story of Gyges’ Ring as a morality tale. (What would YOU do if you could be invisible?) That was in like 450 B.C.! Similarly, Aragorn going through the underworld is straight from numerous Greek myths. And Aragorn coming back with the ships with black sails--thus causing the Steward of Gondor’s despair and suicide--was taken directly from Theseus and the Minotaur. (Theseus is supposed to hoist white sails if he survives his encounter with the minotaur, but he’s so eager to get home, he sails immediately. His father the king sees the black sails, thinks his son is dead, and kills himself.)
Or take some of those Greek myths themselves. Aeschylus and Euripides took stories their audiences knew and spun them differently--sometimes to make political comments against current wars. (Hollywood was a pain in the butt long before Hollywood.) :-)
Or look at the Aeneid (meh, 20 BC?). Virgil took Homer's characters (850BC) and the real Trojan War (1100BC), and told it from a different POV, with different objectives.
Or guess who originally wrote Romeo and Juliet, Macbeth, Hamlet, and King Lear? In none of those cases did Shakespeare make up the story. He took existing stories and made them his own.
When you’re talking about elements of stories that get repeated, and whether they’re rip-offs, you have to decide how specific or general you’re going to be. In the Night Angel Trilogy, Kylar’s an orphan. Wait, not just an orphan, a poor orphan. (Oh, rip-off of Charles Dickens.) Wait, not just an orphan, an orphan who can use magic. (Oh, rip-off of Harry Potter.) Wait, not just an orphan, an orphan who’s smart. (Rip-off of Orson Card.) Wait, not just an orphan, an orphan whose master teaches him to fight. (Rip-off of Star Wars…or whatever.)
Or maybe there’s just something intriguing about orphans. Orphans face an amplified form of the same question that bothers all of us as we grow up: who am I? Where did I come from? Who are my people, and how much does that matter? Plus, orphans are underdogs, so it’s easier to care about them.
So I guess what I consider a more fair question than “aren’t there elements from author X in your books?" is, “Does this book feel like fan fiction, or has Brent Weeks made something here that could only be a Brent Weeks book?” Shakespeare’s work is Shakespeare (and it's better than his sources, even if he stole their ideas). Tolkien uses Greek thinkers and writers, but his work is clearly Tolkien. Jordan is Jordan, Martin is Martin. Now, obviously, there’s a line, and some novels ARE rip-offs--but rip-offs are boring. It happens in every genre, not just fantasy. (Think thrillers. How many suitcase nukes there have been, or viruses that will wipe out the world.)
All this to say, but I just think they come from a misunderstanding of what fantasy novelists do. We try to tell great stories. The materials we use are influenced by our culture and our times. Tolkien's stoic, laconic men could only be English--and the women hardly ever appear at all. (Just try to find fantasy now without some major female characters.) Early sci-fi was all about the triumphs of technology (and saving hot chicks). If something has been done too much, even though it works, it will feel stale. (Take something like a guy rescuing a girl. Generally, guys like the idea and girls like the idea--until you've seen it twelve hundred times. Then, suddenly, in every book and every movie, it's the girl who rescues the guy. Wow, original--until you see THAT five hundred times.) So we challenge certain stereotypes and play with others. Take Vi--she's a busty assassin chick. It's like she walked right out of a video game! But she becomes intriguing (I hope) because I take her so far from that. Or Kylar coming back to life--it's Sir Gawain and the Green Knight (1300's)! Wait, you guys don't know SGGK? j/k All I'm saying is that authors react to our culture and to what we read, and when we have a story problem or even a story blank, we fill then in from our repertoire, and then tweak that. I have a huge, sprawling, intricate world, and for some of the outlying blanks, I penciled in some things similar to Robert Jordan. He and I draw from some of the same cultural wells, and we both love history. I LOVED it when I saw him use a bee in some ancient dude's coat of arms. A bee, that's Napoleon! The Companions, that's Alexander the Great! Jordan even came up with a plot device to justify his stealing: oh, the Wheel turns--this stuff happens over and over, THAT'S why there are similarities to every big Earth myth. Rrrriight. Well, I don't need a plot device to enjoy well-used stolen history. In George Martin: Khal Drogo, that's Ghengis Khan! The Red Wedding, that's the Black Dinner! The warrior-slaves who are unquestioningly obedient, that's the Blackguard! These might not be well known, but they're our common heritage--and for those of us who write big fantasy that has multiple cultures within it, those are our tools.
Those guys each have a couple of decades of writing experience on me, so if you think they do it better than I do, that's fine. My work is definitely influenced by them, and it's influenced by Tolkien, and it's influenced by a bunch of other writers both famous and gifted and not-so-much. At the end of the day, I think if you tore off the cover and read any of my books without seeing who wrote it, you wouldn't say "Hmm, seems like a pale Robert Jordan. Maybe something from early in his career?" I think you'd say, "That's a Brent Weeks book. Definitely."
p.s. I was doing this mostly off the top of my head, so I may have goofed some dates or author minutiae
Was book 3 rushed? UNDER CONSTRUCTION