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Spoiler question about Dorian at the end of the last book. I think only the Author may know the answer.

So, how mad is Dorian at the end? Like, completely crazy and retarded like that guy that got a lobotomy in The One Who Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest? Or just a weirdo who can't control when he enters those trances? That totally sucks, I felt so bad for Dorian and it would kinda bother me to know that he's going to live the rest of his life as a crazy old vegetable, watching his true love being with another man, with both his and Kylar's kid. It's like, he's perma-friend-zoned, and also a vegetable. I'd kill myself if I had to live like that =[.


Off topic: If you ever decide to make a live-action movie, I believe I'd be the best looking Kylar ~_^. I have green AND yellow AND blue in both my eyes, and I've been doing karate for nearly a decade so I won't be all crappy when the choreographer tries to get me to do things.

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HAHAH Sorry guy...But I am the best Kylar around! JK

Anyway I don't know that answer but I always assumed that Dorian is just stuck in his trance forever. But I could be wrong!

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My take on it was that Dorian was mad. Like, very close to truly mad. The lack of the vir would also help prevent any resistance against the talent and the prophecy gift. So his mind would be everywhere but one place.
Poor guy

And guys, why fight over who will be the best Kylar? It's obvious that there will be more CG people in the film than there will be real life acting!

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If Toby McGuire can be Spider-Man in a movie where most of his stuff is done in CGI, then they can do the same for ME in Night Angels! >=D

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haha, I could actually imagine the guy who did goku in the dragonball movie doing kylar for some reason >.< (he was also in war of the worlds). I suppose I would prefer to see not-well known actors doing the NA. You know, thos people who you go 'OH, they were in [insert movie] and had a small role, but it's good to see them doing something bigger and better" type of thing.

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Oh and apparently Dorian was grinning at Vi at the very end of the book. That means he must've been conscious in that timeline to be able to see Vi in present time and then think to grin at her. I hope the next book will have Dorian magically be healed to be sane again, cuz it's only 17 years in the future according to the Extras section of the book, and he's pretty young right? He must be like late 20s or early 30s from this one part in the book that said he was the youngest among Feir and Solon.

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wait....17 years in the future? Is that when the next book is supposed to take place? I didn't know there was an exact timeline. AWESOME! I was mad at dorian in the third book untill the very end, stupid Vir mad him evil for a sec.

HAA! And good point about the CG. I hope they don't go crazy with it. I like the idea of small actors too

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If i remember correctly, Dorian picked one of the futures he couldn't see when he temporaily got rid of his prophecy. If Dorian had picked a path he could see, he would go mad and only come out of the trance a few times for the rest of his life, this is how he saw it. This choice of a blind future free's up Mr. Weeks (Brent), as to how he wants to write Dorians future. He could "Cure" Dorian at some future time. It's really up to Brent how he wants to surprise us, as he has done in all three books.

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not temporarily, premanantly, it started coming back as part of his Vir... soo...

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dorian was completely gone, still sensible, but gone completely nuts, i mean... like... ozzy osbourne on booze and pot... yeah... that bad

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Either way, the fact would remain, that he couldn't see that future and so as mad/looney as Dorian is now, Brent hasn't painted himself into a corner, when it comes to Dorian.

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Well Dorian did see himself as mad in his own future, and saw his wife. Both came true for him. I always thought his madness was as Solon said - he was doomed to spend the vast majority of his time in the psychic trances with only brief moments of lucidity. I also attributed it to a combination of things - his psychic ability for one, but also his using of the vir and the other type of magic (southern?) together during his last months. Not to mention he was treading an incredibly fine line between good and evil for much of those last months - he was doing what he did with the best intentions, but that didn't mean it was the 'right' thing, and that must have played on his conscience. Lastly, he was (I think) the only one of the group who was touching both magical items in the final show down. That much power would have been a lot for anyone to stand up to.

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Isn't "Wolf" supposed to be or rumored to be the another "Mad" mage, with super uber powers? Hmmm, Brent spins alot of webs.

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